S8E14: Co-Creative Transactional Analysis with Graeme Summers & Keith Tudor

In this episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts John Fleming and Matt Taylor speak with Graeme Summers and Keith Tudor, the co-developers of Co-Creative Transactional Analysis (TA) and recipients of the 2020 Eric Berne Memorial Award for this contribution to TA. 

In this conversation, they trace the origins of Co-Creative TA – from shared questions in training, to years of tussling over theory, to a framework that has shaped how practitioners across psychotherapy, education, coaching, and organisational work understand the heart of TA.

Together, they explore how a focus on health, relationship, and present-centred development emerged as a coherent challenge to a field that had, they felt, leaned too heavily on pathology. 

You’ll hear them explore:

  • What Co-Creative TA is and what it is deliberately not
  • The three principles: we-ness, shared responsibility, and present-centred development
  • How social constructivism and field theory informed their re-reading of Berne
  • Why health psychology (psychosanology) matters as much as pathology in TA practice
  • The difference between transactional analysis and transactional design
  • The integrating adult and why Graeme now wants to talk about the ‘disintegrating Adult’ too
  • Why Co-Creative TA is a meta-perspective rather than a school, and what that means for trainees and practitioners

Disclaimer: In this episode, Graeme and Keith are expressing their personal opinions and is not speaking on behalf of any company or organisation.

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